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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46845</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 06:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Appraisals are never objective. Overpricing and underpricing is in between the ears, based upon jealousy or some other non-business emotion.

Though there is no absolute reason why something should be resold at a given price, the last price could be accepted by both seller and buyer as some indication to begin negotiation.

Explaining why something is sold or wanted to buy is a knife that cuts in 2 ways.
It is not the first time people steal an idea about what to do with a domain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appraisals are never objective. Overpricing and underpricing is in between the ears, based upon jealousy or some other non-business emotion.</p>
<p>Though there is no absolute reason why something should be resold at a given price, the last price could be accepted by both seller and buyer as some indication to begin negotiation.</p>
<p>Explaining why something is sold or wanted to buy is a knife that cuts in 2 ways.<br />
It is not the first time people steal an idea about what to do with a domain.</p>
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		<title>By: angus</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46822</link>
		<dc:creator>angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 22:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instant SEDO comments are good, when it happens.

As for comments about using sites like Estibot really does annoy me, its saccharin metrics that offer no value and to be honest devalue domain names.

Finally you can not compare 2 domains to get a price, each domain name is unique in its own right.  The domain is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, until a median price is set in the secondary market domains will continue to get lowball offers.

Justify Price, has to be the worst Comment EVER.  I simply cancel negotiations, if they are serious they will offer again or contact via whois, eitherway I have saved myself wasted time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instant SEDO comments are good, when it happens.</p>
<p>As for comments about using sites like Estibot really does annoy me, its saccharin metrics that offer no value and to be honest devalue domain names.</p>
<p>Finally you can not compare 2 domains to get a price, each domain name is unique in its own right.  The domain is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, until a median price is set in the secondary market domains will continue to get lowball offers.</p>
<p>Justify Price, has to be the worst Comment EVER.  I simply cancel negotiations, if they are serious they will offer again or contact via whois, eitherway I have saved myself wasted time.</p>
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		<title>By: .Me of course</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46797</link>
		<dc:creator>.Me of course</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, on GoDaddy all comment are there to be readinstantly and no yet email discussions. As the seller, why would you bother? You still need a secure escrow service. And as the buyer you can always write to the email on whois record. This was discussed with Tim S @ Sedo - and he agreed all the comments should go instantly. Yet, no implementation so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, on GoDaddy all comment are there to be readinstantly and no yet email discussions. As the seller, why would you bother? You still need a secure escrow service. And as the buyer you can always write to the email on whois record. This was discussed with Tim S @ Sedo &#8211; and he agreed all the comments should go instantly. Yet, no implementation so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Silver</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46796</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 15:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ .ME

Every comment would be &quot;send me an email to discuss&quot; LOL :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ .ME</p>
<p>Every comment would be &#8220;send me an email to discuss&#8221; LOL <img src='http://www.elliotsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: .ME of course!</title>
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		<dc:creator>.ME of course!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 15:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sedo would help much, when they finally implement instant comment approval.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sedo would help much, when they finally implement instant comment approval.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Sequin</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46780</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Sequin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 12:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether you are buying or selling ALWAYS research the other person as much as possible. NEVER make any contact until you have some idea who is on the other side. 

General thoughts whether I am buying or selling...

I always start with an offer. At least that puts money on the table and shows I&#039;m serious. I may not be very serious so the offer might be low but at least it has a better chance of getting the conversation started. 

I am never anonymous. To me that is starting out with a lie.

Start with a phone call. People are usually dismissive, nasty or reply with a high price by email. Call someone and you&#039;ll catch them unprepared. This gets you closer to the truth than if you send an email where they can then research you and the domain term then construct a reply.

Introduce yourself, make your pitch then your offer and then LISTEN. 

Read some sales books. Many of the strategies can be applying to buying domains as well. 

Never say &quot;I&#039;ll give you X for the domain&quot;. That is treating the other party with disrespect. My response to a comment like that is &quot;screw you&quot; and we are off to a bad start. 

You can say something like &quot;This domain is worth X to me. Does that work for you?&quot;. Then, you can justify your price. 

If they come back with a high number, you can ask them how they came up with that valuation but don&#039;t ask them to &quot;justify their price&quot;. That is insulting too. 

Lastly, have a good alternative or at least give the other party the impression that you have a good alternative. Whether you know it or not, you usually do have a good alternative. 

Make sure you ended the conversation/negotiation on a positive note so if the other party ever changes their mind, he/she will call you.

If these strategies don&#039;t work, be patient but persistent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether you are buying or selling ALWAYS research the other person as much as possible. NEVER make any contact until you have some idea who is on the other side. </p>
<p>General thoughts whether I am buying or selling&#8230;</p>
<p>I always start with an offer. At least that puts money on the table and shows I&#8217;m serious. I may not be very serious so the offer might be low but at least it has a better chance of getting the conversation started. </p>
<p>I am never anonymous. To me that is starting out with a lie.</p>
<p>Start with a phone call. People are usually dismissive, nasty or reply with a high price by email. Call someone and you&#8217;ll catch them unprepared. This gets you closer to the truth than if you send an email where they can then research you and the domain term then construct a reply.</p>
<p>Introduce yourself, make your pitch then your offer and then LISTEN. </p>
<p>Read some sales books. Many of the strategies can be applying to buying domains as well. </p>
<p>Never say &#8220;I&#8217;ll give you X for the domain&#8221;. That is treating the other party with disrespect. My response to a comment like that is &#8220;screw you&#8221; and we are off to a bad start. </p>
<p>You can say something like &#8220;This domain is worth X to me. Does that work for you?&#8221;. Then, you can justify your price. </p>
<p>If they come back with a high number, you can ask them how they came up with that valuation but don&#8217;t ask them to &#8220;justify their price&#8221;. That is insulting too. </p>
<p>Lastly, have a good alternative or at least give the other party the impression that you have a good alternative. Whether you know it or not, you usually do have a good alternative. </p>
<p>Make sure you ended the conversation/negotiation on a positive note so if the other party ever changes their mind, he/she will call you.</p>
<p>If these strategies don&#8217;t work, be patient but persistent.</p>
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		<title>By: Acro</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46741</link>
		<dc:creator>Acro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 02:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justify your asking price = GTFO :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justify your asking price = GTFO <img src='http://www.elliotsblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan S</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46707</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 21:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree anytime someone uses estibot valuation in comments, you know they are a domainer, and looking for a one sided deal.  Many sellers, would rather not deal with domainers all together as they offer $60-200 on premium domains on sedo all day long, in hopes of finding someone sleeping.  I doubt it pays off for anyone, just an all around waste of time, if anyone uses estibot on me, if we are miles apart, I just end negotiations after a few rounds as I know it is going nowhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree anytime someone uses estibot valuation in comments, you know they are a domainer, and looking for a one sided deal.  Many sellers, would rather not deal with domainers all together as they offer $60-200 on premium domains on sedo all day long, in hopes of finding someone sleeping.  I doubt it pays off for anyone, just an all around waste of time, if anyone uses estibot on me, if we are miles apart, I just end negotiations after a few rounds as I know it is going nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: 55423</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46694</link>
		<dc:creator>55423</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 17:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ DomainMichael
Estibot is good for the quick snapshot of search metrics they offer, but you&#039;ll never, ever be taken seriously by proposing a counter party abide by their value estimation. You will be instantly dismissed as a Namepros type clueless newbie (or learning disabled long timer), including by people who know nothing about domains or Estibot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DomainMichael<br />
Estibot is good for the quick snapshot of search metrics they offer, but you&#8217;ll never, ever be taken seriously by proposing a counter party abide by their value estimation. You will be instantly dismissed as a Namepros type clueless newbie (or learning disabled long timer), including by people who know nothing about domains or Estibot.</p>
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		<title>By: Domain Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.elliotsblog.com/domain-negotiation-tip-justifying-your-offer-3681#comment-46693</link>
		<dc:creator>Domain Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 17:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sometimes use Estibot estimate in discussion. Of course, I will mention it only if I think it&#039;s going to help me sell or buy the name. Sometimes Estibot is not even close to what the price of a particular domain should be, but it&#039;s a good quick way to valuate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes use Estibot estimate in discussion. Of course, I will mention it only if I think it&#8217;s going to help me sell or buy the name. Sometimes Estibot is not even close to what the price of a particular domain should be, but it&#8217;s a good quick way to valuate.</p>
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