Domain Registration Contest: Win $150!

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Ok..maybe I’m missing something. On the one hand it should be “Google exact match search term” but the global monthly search volume is not 7,480,000 is more like 2900 searches.

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Lol nice way to increase idn registration I can sell anyone interested a nice fresh reg

This is kind of obvious, specially if we are talking IDN domains, but here it goes for those new to foreign languages domaining:

Bear in mind that on Google Adwords Keyword Tool using different search results tailored for different Contry + Language combinations will, of course, give you different footprint values. (So, USA+English may not be the best result).

Kind regards from Mexico City.

This is fun! Okay, here it is:

dinâmicas.com

Portugese for “dynamic.”

Footprint, according to Elliot’s example calculation, above, is:
dinâmicas 1 – 3 $0.27 91 135,000

= 0.27 X 135,000 = 36,450

It was fun . . . I expect to be trumped – go to it!

@ Moriel

Fixed that – thank you!

@Moriel – Thanks, the typo has been corrected. And to clarify we are using EXACT monthly search volume.

@Louise – Good for you for getting the ball rolling

For a followup contest you should put the winning names up for bid here. LOL

Put a bigger example up

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Can I return any I reg for a full refund if I don’t win?

@Jeff – I’ll leave that to you in the comments

@Steve M – No, but if your “footprint” beats the Thai example posted, there is a good chance that many people at IDNForums or IDNNewsletter (myself included) will be clamoring to buy it from you.

@ Aaron, you’re welcome, I’ll post a link on my blog as well.

Elliot corrected specs from “broad” GAKT to “Exact.”

The broad global monthly search volume is 135,000; and the exact global monthly search volume is 8,100 x $0.27 (CPC) = 2,187 (footprint). Beat the Thai example! That leaves it wide open, if Louise can find a site which beats “free” in Thai, there’s terms out there smaller than, “free,” which also do the trick! Just please keep it clean, folks – thanx!

@Louise “…keep it clean…”

Agree, subtle use of masking any adult terms with * etc should be used when replying to this post…

.. but remember, that some of the highest searched terms are in the adult niche (no surprise there) – but their ave CPC is usually very low.. which will bring the footprint down. Likewise there will be many unregistered long tail financial terms with low exact search but with ave CPC in the 10′s of dollars.

Should be interesting to see what people dig up.

I’m sure people are saving their digs for the last day, but we do need to keep this thing going.

Anyway, here’s today’s dig for me.

skådespelare.com
Means actor in Swedish
2,400 exact searches @ $2.00 = 4,800 footprint.

[I haven't had this much fun since the IDN traffic tsunami that hit back in 2007. Whaaat?]

@ epsilon, Wow! Congratulations on beating me – thought I my entry might be hard to follow since it beats “free” in Thai! Great blog linked to on your entry: http://idntraffic.com

Right now, you and I are in the #1 and #2 positions, respectively! If noone else enters, you win $150; I win $100 – not bad for a fun contest!

Here is my first submission (btw can we submit more than one?)

gadżety.com “gadgets” polish xn--gadety-rpb.com
footprint=12,654
gadżety avg cpc=0.57 exact search=22200
footprint=12654

@Jeff its very tough to find a .com with a large footprint.

btw IDNtools.com a great resource to find names

数码伴侣.com

[数码伴侣] 1 – 3 $0.32 33,100

33 100 * 0.31 = 10 261

@ Louise, I’m pretty sure someone will come up with a Japanese reg that will blow both our entries off the chart

Moonies (short for IDN investors) can be a sneaky and frugal bunch. Most will wait until the end to post their finds for these two reasons.

a) Be the last with the highest footprint, and
b) Be within the grace deletion time-frame of the domain.

Watch this space…

@ Tim

You may submit as many domain names as you’d like

Thanks for participating!

found one that shows available at IDNTools availability check w/ a 420,000 footprint, then when i checked it at 101domain it said unavailable …

nice contest

@Aaron Krawitz, when you said, “No, but if your “footprint” beats the Thai example posted, there is a good chance that many people at IDNForums or IDNNewsletter (myself included) will be clamoring to buy it from you.”

… did you mean based on the original example using broad match or the revised example using exact match? i’m feeling like there would not be any clamor over a 1,247 footprint …

@Elliot awesome exposure for IDNs thanks. Your blog is always a great read!

@Mike most likely a variant block. Here is way to check to see if the variant is blocked http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php. this dictionary gives you both simplified and traditional chinese. Plug in both and see if you get “no match for domain” — variant block)

If you don’t have heart problems check
投資 (Investment in Japanese/Trad Chinese @ IDNtools, it shows as available. I believe they are checking the whois info, no registrant –> so it shows as available, but the Chinese variant is taken 投资)
check the whois for 投資.com and it will show “No match for domain “XN–ORU425G.COM”.

thanks Tim that is likely the problem. did not get a ‘no match for domain’ error anywhere though. i checked the word in the dictionary you referenced, then took both the simplified and traditional variant and entered them in to 101domain bulk check, both showed taken. then entered both into IDNTools and both showed available. did not get that specific error message though…

@ Aaron, I wrote a blurb about IDN on my blog – would you check?

Okay, I have to up the ante! This is an expensive game! Or maybe I’m becoming an IDN investor!

digitálnífotoaparáty.com

digitální fotoaparáty 1 – 3 $0.53 49,500

Footprint = 49,500 X 0.53 = 26,235

@Louise way to go!

@Mike try a different registrar such as dynadot or moniker
you would get the “no match for domain” when checking the whois of a variant that is blocked.

@Mike – If you want to sell your IDN after you handreg it, to clarify, I think that almost any one word .com with a broad search over 500,000 and with a “footprint” above the Thai example that is in Japanese, Chinese, Russian, Thai or Hebrew would be clamored for

@Louise – Thanks for blogging about the contest.

Aaron, thanx for posting reply on my blog! Can IDN be JUST to the right of the dot? IDN’s now refer mostly to the LEFT of the dot, with a generic or country code extension to the right. But IDN’s will become available to the right . . . could one have an English word to the left of the dot, with an IDN to the RIGHT of the dot? That would be considered IDN, still.

BTW, I registered caféexpresso.com. It’s French for espresso – couldn’t resist! But it gets only 1848 footprint, but it’s cute, so I registered it!

@Louise – It looks like you’re doing pretty well for yourself. If I didn’t know better, I’d say that you’re already an IDNForums member

re: our IDN.IDN ccTLD Fast Track discussion –

The dot IDN ccTLDs that are being introduced as part of the IDN ccTLD fast track process have not yet been officially approved, so while some countries such as Russia already said that “English.РФ” domains will not exist, nothing is official yet.

Hi, playing solitaire: משרדהחינוך.com
משרד החינוך
Footprint: 90,500 x $0.64 = 57,920

@ Louise, that last Hebrew reg means “Ministry of Education” (or literally “office of the educator) so its no surprise that the footprint is high. Are there any TM issues?

You know what? Throw it out, if you don’t like it! My conscience says there’s no trademark issue. If you bring up names with certain provinces or companies, they will MAKE an issue, because they think they could use that name themselves! . . . My little portfolio is clean, with no trademark infringements. My policy is to turn over the domain name, if there is a dispute! I’ll contact the Ministry of Education in Israel, and offer it no charge . . . How come the CPC is 64 cents, then there’s no Adwords ads when the term is entered into Google?

@Louise – I appreciate your attitude to stay clear of any gray area such as this one.

Hi, Just sent the Ministrer of Education in Israel – Gideon Sa`ar – an email, offering משרדהחינוך.com an no charge!

How come you didn’t announce the contest on the front page of your site? This post is slipping down, so people may not find it easily . . . Feel bad if I win too easily, the prize is alot of $$!!

This name was submitted:

携帯電話価格.com

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@ Elliot, do you mean, this name: 携帯電話価格.com?

It’s MY computer!

If you want to extend the auction, I’m okay with that.

Great idea. Thank you for the fun. I haven’t done any hand-regging in months and I am amazed at how much value is still available.

Will you be going by the Global Exact Search volume only? I have a few where the Local Exact Search Volume is greater than the Global. This makes no sense but that is what Google is reporting.

Clotho : Global Volume is the monthly average while Local is the approx. volume of the last month, geotargeted. If you have Local > Global it just means that your geo volume of last month exceeded the general monthly average.

My submission for the contest

interpretaciondesueños.com [interpretation of dreams]
footprint around 99K

@ Clotho, interesting question. I, too, am curious to hear the answer!

@ Squirrel – Congrats! That is a great domain name. Do you think you’d have any problems selling it? Not likely, with a footrprint like that!

Right now, I am in 2nd place with 26,235 for digitálnífotoaparáty.com and Tim is in 3rd. But it’s not over!

Thanx for contest – I feel rich, not from a prize, but I learned about the world around me! It’s moving, I almost feel like crying! I got to know the cultures – what people search for! Noodles.com is available in some languages, but not Korean, Chinese, and Japanese, for instance.

In Greece, people aren’t online researching the weather before they go out. But our Hungarian mankind brethren are glued to the computer, and won’t go out unless they check the weather forecast first.

That is why, időjárás előrejelzés Hungarian for, “weather forecast,” is a popular search, leaving a 96480 footprint.
időjáráselőrejelzés.com , my last entry to the contest.

Thanx for contest! Laters!

Please send first prize over here. My submission: 美容整形男性.com

My entries are:

企业邮箱申请.com Mail application in Simplified Chinese.

翻訳英語.com which means translate English in Japanese. Search 翻訳 英語

自動車保険ランキング.com which means Car insurance ranking in Japanese. Search 自動車保険 ランキング

転職相談.com Outplacement counseling in Japanese

わきが治療.com Odor treatment in Japanese

自己破産相談.com Bankruptcy counseling in Japanese. Search 自己破産 相談

Thanks for the fun!

@Jose – Haha that is awesome! Nice reg.

@Clotho – Nice variety there too. Thanks for joining in the fun.

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Jose, unfortunately in Chinese no one would search for ‘美容整形男性’.

The more correct way of saying it would be 男性美容整形

Google adwords for Chinese is pretty flawed. Baidu Index shows no searches.

Mistake in above post. Meant Japanese in the above post. Grammatically would be the same 男性美容整形 is the correct version.

男性美容整形 gets Overture, 美容整形男性 does not. Adwords tool is wrong.

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Hancock, 美容整形男性 does have a historical ovt score of 270.

I agree that Google’s keyword tool is flawed. But then, so is OVT. I always check both to be careful.

The problem of Google’s keyword tool is that it often gives same score for phrase A B and B A where both A and B are words.

BTW, I don’t know if grammatically correct domains always have higher search volumes. I am a native Japanese speaker and I’d not be surprised if 美容整形男性 has more search volume than 男性美容整形 as Google indicates.

Likewise, Clotho’s 翻訳英語 looks odd to me, as in Japanese, verb (and noun that stems from verb) should follow noun. But it doesn’t mean Japanese people don’t put 翻訳 英語 in the search bar and press enter at all.

Congrats Jose & Clotho nice names

here is one, but its not the stratosphere you guys posted.
flüge wien Vienna flights
xn--flgewien-75a.com

Hi

結婚相談所大阪.com Osaka Marriage Agency

$16,34 x 14.800 = 241.832

Ruy that is incorrect – It is $6.34 not $16.34

I get 16.82 for 結婚相談所 大阪.

Ryu, I agree that 翻訳英語 seemed a bit odd. I would expect 英語 翻訳 to be more popular and indeed it returns a higher local search volume at 74,000. This is why I put down translate English instead of English Translation in the description.

I am still surprised at how many great names are still waiting to be claimed. There are still gold nuggets lying on the ground. A large footprint isn’t the only indication of a great name. I just registered フローリスト.com which means Florist. Without doubt 花屋 (Flower Shop) is the preferred search term but フローリスト.com is still pretty decent. フローリスト.jp was registered by a Japanese native in 2001 and 花屋.jp was registered by a Japanese native in 2007.

フローリスト.com isn’t going to win anything in this contest but this one is pretty decent. I am pretty sure it is correct as well. 男性整形.com is my latest entry.

Sorry J, but if you see this foto you can see that is now :

[結婚相談所 大阪] Osaka Marriage Agency

$16.50 x 14.800 = 244.200

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48695915@N04/4461142779/

Use synonyms. ON

Do not show ideas for new keywords. OFF

About 30 minutes until we find out who the winners are . . .

@ Ruy, What is the url of the GAKT? Could it be the US site is not quite synchronized with other sites? I see the photo Google is Portugese. On the English Google which serves the US, the average CPC for Osaka Marriage Agency is: $6.33 – great domain, in any case!

@Louise

If you look at the top he has the Keyword tool set to Japanese and Japan which would be correct for a Japanese term like [結婚相談所 大阪] Osaka Marriage Agency.

Found it!

https://adwords.google.com.br/select/KeywordToolExternal

Google Brazil shows different values, though in US dollars, for same submissions! Why is that? Are Pay for Click prices set at different values in different countries?

My last 3 submissions carry smaller footprint in Google Brazil . . .

Okay – I get it! *blushing* IDN’s are valuable, based on what footprint applies to the country . . . That makes my first entry, dinâmicas,com, more valuable, though the footprint is similar. The list of exact matches scrolls down halfway for Brazil!

digitálnífotoaparáty.com has 49,500 exact keyword matches in Czech Republic, but no [0] ads – is it worth nothing? Maybe it’s worth something, because people search on it . . . but no Czech developers purchase those keyword ads . . . In the US, the CPC is 53 cents.

This should have been spelled out in the rules – I’m a newbie!

Elliot’s example: ฟรี.com (Free.com in Thai). The broad global monthly search volume is 7,480,000; and the exact global monthly search volume is 2,900 x $0.43 (CPC) = 1,247 (footprint).

bases CPC on the United States – which is it?

Thank you.

We are still verified the winners, so please be patient, but after a quick initial review it looks like the winners are as follows:

1. Jose 美容整形男性.com
2. Clotho 男性整形.com
3. Ruy 結婚相談所 大阪.com

Nice job guys, and to all participants.

Hi Louise

I see the dilemma. The Keyword tool returns similar results for CPC most of the time whether the language and country is set or not. In the case of 結婚相談所 大阪.com The difference is dramatic but this was not specified in the rules.

This contest was meant to be fun and build awareness so they tried to keep it simple I think. Some good points have been made about data mining IDN’s and the steps you should take to make sure you have a good name. Normally when working with the keyword tool I would suggest setting the language and country appropriately. Also as Ryu mentioned it is a good idea further verify the term against other databases such as Overture or Baidu depending on what is appropriate. Other steps I personally take are to put the term in “” and see how many results are returned in the appropriate search engine. I would use Baidu.cn for Chinese names and Yahoo.co.jp for Japanese ones for example. Also at the same time you can check the images tag to see if the images displayed match the domain.

Your dinâmicas domain returns 1,430,000 in quotes in Google so i think you have a real winner there. I think in a couple years time I would prefer to be the owner of Dynamic.com in Portuguese than most of the junk I see on the English domain forums today.

I get 60,500 local searches at .56 for digitální fotoaparáty so you may want to consider that one. I think it is still very good. Images of cameras and 2.350,000 returned results in Google too. Even if it didn’t have any CPC sometimes a name is still good to get. We are still a bit ahead of the curve so the advertising will increase over time. Many names I registered 4 years ago had no CPC and are now over $1.00

@Louise
I get several ads for digitální fotoaparáty on seznam.cz & google.cz

none on google.com go with the local search engine.

and it was meant to be fun although everyone wants to win (:
congrats again Jose

Hello

For the record I didn’t use any automation or script to find the winning domain name. It was never a drop, it was never searched on idn.bz.

I soon realized this was all about CPC, since finding domains with more than 100k exact monthly searches is almost impossible now-a-days. So, I ordered my Japanese IDN domains by CPC, and entered the top ones on the Google tool. Terms like データ復旧, クレジット, 終身保険 or 整形美容. From this last one, I found the winner. Took me 15 min. I think I got lucky, that’s all.

Thanks all.

@Tim
Judging by the names that were registered I would say we all won.

Congrats Jose!

Congrats, Jose, Clotho, and Ruy!

@ Clotho, I agree – we all won!

Every domain entered was fun for me to check:

Louise
dinâmicas – Portugese

US Footprint: 2187
Brazil Footprint: 2754

Epsilon
[skådespelare] actor – Swedish

Footprint: 5760

Tim
gadzety gadgets – Polish

Footprint: 11,888

Miranda
Digital Partner – Chinese

Footprint: 9,599

Louise
digitální fotoaparáty – Czech

Footprint Czech – no cpc
Footprint: 26,253

café expresso – French

Footprint: 1,848

携帯電話価格 – Phone Prices – Japanese

Footprint: 15,556
Japan Footprint: 13,575

Squirrel
Interpretation of Dreams – interpretacion de sueños – Spanish

Footprint: 95,700
Spain Footprint: 92,400
Argentina: 104,500
Venezuela: 111,100
Puerto Rico: 84,700
Peru: 59,400
Mexico: 100,100
Columbia: 80,300
Chili: 70,400
Canada: 96,800
Brazil: 86,900
Portugal: 102,300

Jose Augusto
Male Chinese Plastic Surgery – Chinese

Footprint: 878,460

Clotho
Mail Application – Simplified Chinese

Footprint: 392,700

Translate English in Japanese – Japanese

Footprint: 153,065

Car Insurance Ranking – Japanese

Footprint: 53,262

Outplacement Counseling – Japanese

Footprint 44,022

Odor Treatment – Japanese

Footprint 36,960

Bankruptcy Counseling – Japanese

Footprint 24,408

Tim
flüge wien – German

Footprint: 116,160

Ruy Redin
Osaka Marriage Agency

Footprint: 93,644
Japan Footprint: 192,104

– this is better than school! Thanx for feedback everyone, I saved the page to my desktop.

Nice work Louise!

It didn’t take you very long to get the hang of this. With the tools we have today it is pretty easy to find great IDNs even if you don’t speak the language. As you can see there is still much value waiting to be discovered.

I like the caféexpresso.com domain too.

Do you have an account at IDNForums.com? If not you should stop by sometime.

@ Clotho, thanx – do you moderate there? If I want to just sign up one time, what do I sign up for? Already I posted on the new blog, but that doesn’t require a sign-in. If I sign up for the forum, does the newsletter come automatic?

@Louise – Signing up for IDNForums.com is really essential as it is a great place to share ideas.

IDNNewsletter.com is separately run but the signup is quick and painless and should take under a minute.

Thanks again for the enthusiasm and spirit of learning that you brought to this contest. I look forward to seeing you involved in the other IDN sites as well.

@Louise

I am not a moderator. I am just a domainer like yourself. I did buy my first IDN in 2000 so I do have a a few years of experience with them.

Okay, I signed up . . . thought IDN Forum is the same company! Is it?

Unless it has a punycode, it’s not IDN? Just registered:

Web-Konferenzen.com

Definitely German language dot com, but there’s no punycode . . .

Thank you for honorable mention in your email, Aaron – I received it! It was nice way to start day . . .

@Louise – You definitely deserved that honorable mention email

As for your questions: – IDNForums is separately owned and run.

-If there’s no punycode equivalent and no special characters, it is not an IDN.

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