Comments on: Things to Look for When Finding End User Buyers

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:25:06 +0000

Louise, thanks for doing that, but I was just using catfish as an example because that’s what Jorge used above me.

By: Louise

Louise — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:23:16 +0000

@ Michael, Here you go:

catfishhodge.com
buycatfish.com
catfishphoto.com
corydorascatfish.com
catfishfeeding.com
redtailedcatfish.com
catfishhabitat.com
littlecatfish.com
shovelnosecatfish.com
pangasiuscatfish.com
sharkcatfish.com
typesofcatfish.com
catfishstinkbait.com
catfishimages.com
catfishcarp.com

By: Rob Monster - Epik

Rob Monster - Epik — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:35:57 +0000

@Logan, @Elliot – The sending feature requires a paid membership. The sending cost is low but it is countermeasure to prevent people from using the system to spam. We’ll look into making this more clear. To date, we mostly have introduced it to a few clients who are wanting help with selling their domains.

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:30:38 +0000

@Mike – That’s very close to what I’m looking for, but precisely what I want would be search results with:

KeywordCatfish.com or
CatfishKeyword.com or
Catfish.tld (you solved this one)

With Keyword being a wild card (*).

I tried doing “site:*catfish.*” and that gave me KeywordCatfish.— as you suggested, but I get no results when I try these:

site:*catfish.com
site:catfish*.com
site:*catfish*.com

Not sure why, but it is already closer to what I’m trying to get. Thanks for the help. If anyone stumbles across how to do it please let me know.

By: Elliot

Elliot — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:37:42 +0000

@ Logan

I had the same issue when I tried a couple of tests. I tried sending end user emails using my own domain names as a test and they failed.

Also, I would recommend filtering sites like Yahoo, Bing, Wikipedia….etc, as it would be extremely unlikely that an email to the whois contact would result in a sale.

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:37:10 +0000

@Michael, not exactly what you are asking for, but one thing you can do is to enter in a ‘*’ for the tld of any keyword you want to search for to see results for that keyword in every tld that is indexed. for example, to search all catfish.— sites, you would enter:

site:catfish.*

this is just a quick way to see all the extensions for sites of that keyword that are actually indexed, plus what titles and meta-descriptions they use, and who ranks highest/lowest. also can generally tell who is parked by the meta-description

By: Logan

Logan — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:35:37 +0000

@Rob – when I tried EndUserGenie.com, none of the emails would go through. They always said Failed or Banned or some such. I got this same response using the provided mail router and using my own SMTP mail server configuration. I find it odd that ALL would receive such a response.

By: Rob Monster - Epik

Rob Monster - Epik — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:40:48 +0000

@randomo – Thanks for the feedback. The site is still beta. We use it internally so please pound on it and send feedback. My email is rob -at- epik.com . It works, but it is not ready for public launch. We have given a few power users and clients pre-launch access while we finish development and testing. I have been using it for weeks.

@Michael – A small tip a propos your original question: if you click on any of the suggested names that the EndUserGenie finds, it will go find all related names even if they are not live and developed.

By: randomo

randomo — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:35:08 +0000

@Rob – That looks like an interesting tool. One little quirk on the site: when I tried to create an account, I had to check a box that said “Agree to terms?” – but I couldn’t find the terms anywhere. Maybe I’m overlooking something obvious.

(I understand that since this is an unannounced tool, it may not be polished; just wanted to point this out FYI.)

By: Louise

Louise — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:52:29 +0000

@ Rob, that was exciting – I signed up for Auctions.epik.com and EndUserGenie.com, but I think I have to be approved or notified of the auction before I can send out a listing . . .

Playing the Drop Market panel at TRAFFIC Las Vegas was interesting, which I caught the tail end of so now I can place a face to your name. Good job on your web projects, including Epik auction, because the interface is uncluttered, simple, and fast! Hope it works out!

By: Nuno Alex Oliveira

Nuno Alex Oliveira — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:00:21 +0000

Hello Michael,

Such a search operator doesn’t exist. I researched and asked several people but it seems that for now we don’t have any luck.
Some services can give a close result, but none has all tld’s.

Best Regards,

Nuno

By: Rob Monster - Epik

Rob Monster - Epik — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:34:04 +0000

@Michael – You can try out a tool we built for locating end-clients. It is called EndUserGenie.com. It is not a tool that we have announced but it works. It finds the targets, mails to them and tracks who has been mailed what in a portfolio.

FYI, this is actually how I sold MensJewelryRings.com for $6500 after drop-catching it. We sold it at our auction site — auctions.epik.com. In other words, I use EndUserGenie.com to send leads to visit the auction listing at auctions.epik.com.

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:00:25 +0000

Does anyone know how to do a search similar to “inurl:catfish” but only for the keyword in the domain? That search will come up with stuff like http://blah.com/catfish-are-yummy.html which isn’t as useful. I’d like something similar to http://*catfish*.com with * being a wild card.

Also, wondering what you guys think about CC as opposed to separate emails. I always hear that you should send them individually, but I can’t help thinking if you send an email to admin@coke.com AND admin@pepsi.com, that it would spark their sense of urgency and competition knowing for a fact that their competitor is being given the same opportunity and whoever pounces first wins.

Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

By: jorge

jorge — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:30:43 +0000

You should also look for companies that have similar .COM domains but longer than yours. So if you have “catfish.com”, you might be able to sell to the owner of KentuckyCatfish.com.

You can find these kinds of domains on google with a search like:

inurl:catfish

This will give you a list of sites that have catfish in the URL (not necessarily the domain, but it’s a good start).

By: Elliot

Elliot — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:22:29 +0000

@ Mitch

Very good suggestion. In fact, you can often find links to “affiliate program” or “partners” on websites, and that will lead you to the right person. Oftentimes affiliate program managers will understand the value better than others at the company.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:18:40 +0000

If you’ve got that perfect targeted domain,
don’t overlook finding some (get your foot in the door) email/phone contacts through affiliate advertisers at cj, etc.
You can’t find these on the websites, or whois contact info.

By: Elliot

Elliot — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:58:14 +0000

@ Kevin

Doesn’t happen to me much. Can’t remember the last time actually.

By: Kevin Murphy

Kevin Murphy — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:57:10 +0000

I’ve found these end user posts very interesting, but there’s one thing I’m not sure you’ve addressed yet:

When you cold-email a potential buyer, how often do you get a nasty response? There’s plenty of people out there who confuse speculation with squatting.